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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

The Keir Starmer Prime Minister One

Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

BBC

News, Politics

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

After some of the most tumultuous days of his premiership, Keir Starmer sits down with Nick in Downing Street, to reflect on a year in power.

In a wide-ranging interview, the prime minister defends his style of leadership, while taking responsibility for the setbacks.

He also opens up about losing his brother last year and his personal relationship with President Trump

Producers: Daniel Kraemer, Leela Padmanabhan and Chloe Desave

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

I've just been talking to the Prime Minister for political thinking at the end of his first year in office.

0:11.5

It began so well for Secere that landslide election win, a huge parliamentary majority, but it's ended with that majority evaporating. So our agenda for this conversation,

0:24.8

what's gone right, what's gone wrong. Sakea, thank you very much for having us here into

0:30.4

Downing Street. Thank you for coming in. I know you know it well, but it's good to have you in here,

0:34.6

particularly for our anniversary. Indeed, and it's been quite a year, hasn't it?

0:37.8

It began with an election land-stired, a huge parliamentary majority, a promise of change and hope,

0:43.5

and it's drawing to a close with a majority vanishing, as Labour MPs refused to back your proposals

0:48.8

to cut the ballooning benefit bill in a series of awkward U-turns.

0:53.1

When we planned this interview, which let's be clear was

0:55.4

weeks ago, my first question was going to be congratulations. I'm not sure that feels quite right

1:00.8

anymore, does it? Well, the first thing I'd say, Nick, in reflection, is I obviously came

1:06.7

into politics late in life, did other things beforehand, and I came in to change lives,

1:11.1

having had nine long years in opposition, frustrated that we weren't in opposition able to change

1:17.4

lives. I wouldn't swap a single day of the last year with opposition. And we've done some

1:24.4

fantastic things, you know, really driven down the waiting lists in the NHS,

1:29.7

really done loads of improvements in schools and the stuff that we can do for children,

1:33.9

whether it's rolling out school, uniform projects, whether it's school meals, breakfast clubs, you name it,

1:40.9

and got sort of huge amount of investment into the country. And of course, we've

1:46.1

been busy getting three trade deals, which I can remind people through you. These were trade deals

1:53.4

where other governments weren't able to get. So there's a lot that we can look back on. I won't do

1:57.8

a long list. We'd probably use up the whole 40 minutes if we did

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