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Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz show on IHeart Radio.

My guest today is the founder of Outkick, the co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Radio Show,

and the founder of the podcast network, which platforms the Carol Markowitz show.

Welcome, Clay Travis. Thank you for having me. I apologize. The lights are off in my studio.

So if I look like I'm in a cave, just pretend I'm Batman. I feel like it's a perfect vibe,

actually. So you have a lot of podcasts on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network. I have two of those podcasts.

And one of the things I do on the show and I don't expect you to know it is I ask all

of my guests a set of three questions.

And I switch up my questions at my yearly anniversary mark, two year anniversary is coming

up in October.

The first time you came on the show, you actually caused a little bit of a sensation

with the answers to one of your questions.

You were my second ever guest ever.

And the three questions I asked in my first season, one of the questions was, do you

think that you've made it?

And you said, no. And I had multiple people right into me. I had listener named Anna, wrote in, how the heck does Clay Travis not think he's made

it? His life seems set. Another listener actually also named Clay, wrote in and said, if Clay Travis

hasn't made it, how can any of us

say that we have? To be fair, you said in some ways yes, but in other ways, no. Do you stand by that

answer? Yeah, because I think when you say I've made it, it suggests that you're at a final destination.

And I don't think I'm at a final destination.

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