I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, and welcome

to We The People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.

The National Constitution Center is a nonpartisan nonprofit chartered by Congress

to increase awareness and understanding of the Constitution among the American people.

Today we discuss the indictment

of Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks

and whether or not it is consistent with the First Amendment.

His indictment has reignited the debate over the question about the line between First Amendment protected journalism and cyber crimes and joining us to discuss this fascinating and important question about whether the indictment of Assange

poses a threat to press freedoms are two of America's leading experts on the intersection

between National Security Law and the First Amendment, two great friends of the We

the People Podcast. Josh Guelzer is founding executive director of the Institute for

Constitutional Advocacy and Protection and a visiting professor of law at

Georgetown University Law Center.

He is also an ASU Future of War Fellow at the New America Foundation.

He previously served a senior director for counter-terrorism at the National Security Council and

Council to the Assistant Attorney General for National Security at the U.S. Department of Justice.

Josh, it's great to have you back on the show.

Thanks so much for the invitation.

And Ben Wisner is director of the ACLU's Speech, Privacy,

and Technology Project.

His work focuses on the intersection of Civil Liberties

and National Security.

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