This is the Kader Daily Podcast for Friday, December 13th, 2019.

I'm Caleb Brown.

The Jones Act represents a substantial, if largely invisible,

intervention into trade among the several states, and few places in America are more

affected than our 50th state, our southernmost state, and the state that gets so much of

its products via ship Hawaii.

Kalea Akina is president of the Grassroot Institute in Hawaii.

We talked about the costly effects of the Jones Act when we spoke in Colorado Springs in October.

First let me say aloha to all of you listening. in Colorado Springs in October.

First let me say aloha to all of your listeners out there, especially your friends at Cato Institute.

Hawaii is the most isolated archipelago on the planet.

So everything we get is either shipped in or flown in and

the vast majority of it comes by ships, deep bottom carrier ships.

Okay, so what individual problems are posed under federal law for your ability to get those things?

Well, we have this 100- old federal law in 20, it will be 100 years old called the Jones Act.

Senator Jones set that up way back when.

And as a result of it, our shipping is astronomically higher than anywhere else in the country.

Other places that are affected by it are Puerto Rico and coastlands as well.

The Jones Act has several rules that make it a little bit difficult to get

shipping at a cost effective rate. I can tell you about those if you'd like.

Absolutely. Go ahead. Well first of, keep in mind the Jones Act covers all

shipping that takes place between two U.S. ports. So for example, Los Angeles and Honolulu or California's southern coast, San Diego and San Francisco.

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