This is the BBC.

How we laughed when she said it.

Not exactly profound is it we sneered.

But the significance of Theresa May's most memorable Brexit sound bite

became all too clear this week.

Brexit means Brexit she said.

And what she really meant was, look, you know that I voted remain.

You know that the vote was very close.

You know the country wasn't really told,

let alone really consider the complications.

But we are really leaving the EU.

And the reason she felt she had to say it all those months ago

became very clear this week when a new powerful coalition

took to the stage.

Arging the Brexit didn't have to mean quite Brexit.

Or at least if he did, we'd still be very, very close to the EU

in the single market, in the customs union.

Or even having a second referendum.

My guest on the podcast is lining up to try to stop them.

He's the man formally known as a harmless,

jamming, eccentric, backbencher, who reveals the first time he met a Prime Minister.

I met Ted Heath when I was about three just under when he was Prime Minister.

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