Welcome to the President's inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay, the Mary and David Boyes

distinguished senior fellow in U.S. foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations. This

week's topic is the Iran Nuclear Talks. With me to discuss the ongoing talks between the United States and Iran over Iran's nuclear program is Kareem Sadipur.

Kram is a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, where he focuses on Iran and U.S. foreign policy toward the Middle East. He regularly advises

senior U.S., European, and Asian officials, and he has testified numerous times before the United

States Congress. He wrote a piece for the Carnegie Endowment's blog Emissary, titled,

Iran wants to avoid both peace and war with the United States. Trump isn't having it.

Kareem, thank you for joining me on the president's inbox.

Great to be with you, Jim. Thank you for inviting me.

Kareem, as we speak here today, American and Iranian officials have held three rounds of talks,

two in Muscat, one in Rome, over the last month, and another meeting may possibly

take place by the time this episode airs. So let me begin with the big question. How significant are

these conversations? I don't think they've yet reached the level where they're very significant

in that I don't think that the talks have

really gone into the technical details and the technical details are going to determine whether

or not a deal is in place. But during the Biden administration, there really weren't direct

conversations between the United

States and Iran.

And there's clearly a will in both capitals, both Tehran and Washington, to reach some

kind of an agreement.

But again, the nature of these talks are going to be highly technical.

And this coming weekend may be the first time that the two sides

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