The Intrinsic Order that Emerges from Within Chaos (Elinor Dickson, PhD)
Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen
Lemonada Media
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 2 October 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Lemonada. |
| 0:05.7 | Hi, it's Elise Loonen, host of Pulling the Thread. |
| 0:09.3 | Today I'm talking to one of our culture's wisestan, host of Pulling the Thread. |
| 0:28.5 | On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here. |
| 0:34.8 | My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant |
| 0:38.7 | tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow. |
| 0:45.3 | Here is today's guest, Eleanor Dixon, on our potential to resolve the imbalance between the |
| 0:50.9 | feminine and the masculine. We have to recapture the fullness of our own humanity in a feminine form. |
| 1:02.1 | I am a big Eleanor Dixon fan. |
| 1:04.7 | She is one of the wise elders of our time. |
| 1:07.6 | She's spent more than 35 years as a Jungian therapist and nearly 20 years as a community |
| 1:13.0 | builder and chief psychologist at a trauma hospital. And she, of course, co-wrote Dancing in the |
| 1:18.6 | Flames with her good friend, Marian Woodman, who is probably one of the most famous |
| 1:25.1 | youngian writers ever. Unfortunately, Marion is no longer with us. That book |
| 1:31.8 | has been so formative in my own life and work, and particularly to how I figured out what I was |
| 1:38.0 | up to in my book on our best behavior. It was such an honor to talk to Eleanor today about the new |
| 1:44.0 | universal mythos that our culture so badly needs. |
| 1:47.7 | I loved hearing Eleanor's historical perspective on how so much of our modern world is actually shaped by the great plague. |
| 1:55.6 | We talked about the idea of living in a pre-Christian world, and we talked about matriarchies and patriarchies, and how neither |
| 2:02.6 | is the right fit for us. We also talked about inspiring female archetypes, where Eleanor sees hope, |
| 2:09.3 | and the crazy ways that, within chaos, a deeper intrinsic order reveals itself. After our conversation, |
| 2:17.1 | I share a few more of my favorite passages from |
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