The Intellectual Capacity of Both/And Thinking w/ Management Professor Wendy K Smith
The Kevin Miller Podcast
Kevin Miller
4.5 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 19 December 2025
⏱️ 69 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast for your personal evolution. In this episode, |
| 0:06.8 | the intellectual capacity of both and thinking. I continue to research human communication, and |
| 0:17.4 | I find the vast majority of everything that we communicate is subjective. We're seldom |
| 0:24.0 | discussing facts and right, wrong, black, white issues. They may feel so to us, but if pressed, |
| 0:31.0 | we'd need to admit that what we're arguing or advocating for is not fact. The topic or issue is not unanimously provable. But it is efficient to just |
| 0:42.3 | cite our perspective as truth and come across that way. It takes time and effort to really |
| 0:46.9 | understand and consider all the sides. So I sat down with an expert on the concept. Wendy K. Smith, she has a PhD in organizational behavioral |
| 0:57.3 | behavior from Harvard and is the Dana J. Johnson Professor of Management and Faculty Director of the |
| 1:05.5 | Women's Leadership Initiative at University of Delaware. She's an expert on organizational paradoxes, |
| 1:12.9 | exploring how leaders and individuals effectively respond to contradictory, |
| 1:17.7 | yet interdependent demands. |
| 1:19.8 | She spends her time continually working to better manage. |
| 1:23.6 | Again, the paradoxes of life that we all face. |
| 1:26.5 | And I just, I like that word that so many things feel paradoxical. |
| 1:32.0 | So she co-authored a book called Both and Thinking, |
| 1:37.1 | Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems. |
| 1:41.4 | This topic is really of the utmost importance to me as I continue to see our world |
| 1:47.2 | in conflict and people more isolated. So coming up next, I talk with Wendy Smith about how to |
| 1:57.4 | better understand and harness both and thinking for our betterment and the betterment |
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