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The Kevin Miller Podcast

A Reminder That Self-Worth Is Not Earned w/ Mindfulness Teacher Michelle Maros

The Kevin Miller Podcast

Kevin Miller

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Social Sciences, Education, How To, Society & Culture, Science, Medicine, Life Sciences, Spirituality, Nutrition, Self-improvement, Mental Health, Relationships

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

To make this statement, which is subjective, we need to clarify what we mean by self-worth. I have nine kids. Did they have any worth as infants? Or no, because they hadn’t earned their self worth  yet? How about as toddlers? Kindergartners? My belief is they were born with self worth. They deserve to have value in the world just because they exist. I think of the Rocky Mountains I live in. I don’t perceive that anything I observe has to earn its worth. They have worth because they are. Now us as humans, we may want to do some things. Grow and test ourselves. I get that and still look to behave in ways I respect as good choices and efforts. But like Viktor Frankl in a Nazi concentration camp, I want my self-worth not to rely on anything. I wish I’d understood this earlier in my life, as I’ve spent most of it working to earn my errant concept of, or ignorance toward, my self-worth. So in this episode I bring on a wonderful guide for this topic. Michelle Maros  is the cofounder of Peaceful Mind Peaceful Life, a non-profit that has inspired a global community dedicated to mental health, mindfulness, and emotional well-being, and she co-hosts the popular podcast Life Happens with Barb & Michelle, alongside her mom, Barb, where they have heartfelt conversations blending personal stories, spiritual insights, and practical tools for navigating life’s ups and downs. Michelle has devoted herself to extensive training in meditation and mindfulness and has a deep passion for helping people cultivate happiness, fulfillment, and inner peace. She has become a leading voice of her generation— reminding people that inner peace isn’t found in perfection, but in showing up each day with intention, compassion, and authenticity. She just came out with a book, Dear Friend: Daily Notes for Contemplation, Connection, and Clarity. I relate it to a daily devotional, and have been inspiring and reminding myself with her daily insights. As you’ll hear, I’m gifting some people in my life with this book for Christmas. Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast for your personal evolution. In this episode,

0:07.0

a reminder that self-worth is not earned. So to make that statement, which is subjective,

0:14.6

we need to clarify what's meant by self-worth, what I mean by self-worth. And I have nine kids.

0:20.7

So did they have any worth, self-worth as infants?

0:25.5

Or no, because they hadn't earned their self-worth yet. How about as toddlers or kindergartners?

0:32.3

Well, my belief now is they were born with self-worth. They deserve to have value in the world just because they exist.

0:40.7

I think of the Rocky Mountains that I live in,

0:42.3

and I don't think anything that I can perceive has to earn its worth.

0:46.4

It has its worth just because it's there.

0:48.4

It exists.

0:49.3

So as humans, I mean, we may want to do some things, granted,

0:52.6

grow and test ourselves.

0:53.9

And I get that. I still look to behave. I mean, we may want to do some things, granted, grow and test ourselves.

0:55.4

And I get that.

1:03.2

I still look to behave in ways that I respect and make good choices and good efforts.

1:12.5

But like Victor Frankel in a Nazi concentration camp, I want myselfworth not to rely on anything that I have to do.

1:20.7

It's just who I be. I wish I'd understood this earlier in life. I spent so much time working to earn my errant concept of or ignorance toward my self-worth. So in this episode, I bring on a wonderful guide for this topic.

1:29.3

Michelle Maros, she's the co-founder of Peaceful Mind, Peaceful Life.

1:34.0

It's a nonprofit that's inspired a global community dedicated to mental health, mindfulness,

1:39.9

and emotional well-being.

1:41.2

And she co-host a really popular podcast.

1:43.7

It's called Life Happens with Barb and Michelle.

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