We probably tried to, you know, minip the bone like 30 times, 40 times over the weekend.

And I finally got it to like feel like it clicked back into place.

And like immediately, like a lot of my pain went away, like in my arch and like all over the foot.

And so I remember calling Milt that night and telling him like, I like I like a lot of my pain's gone like

I feel really good I think we got a shot at this and like I was still very cautiously optimistic

that like I'd be able to run for the season.

That's Parker Wolf today on my podcast with him and his good friend and teammate and also former podcast guest, Ethan Strand.

Today's conversation was a really fun one because I've had both Parker and Ethan on the podcast

a handful of times individually, but as they are teammates and two of the best runners in the

NCAA, I wanted to get them both on the podcast right after they finished their cross-country season

and right before they kick off their indoor track season this weekend with a 3K where they are

facing off head to head.

They joke about it, talk about it in today's conversation, which was a fun moment in this

conversation.

But I really thoroughly enjoyed getting to sit down with both of them and talk about their

friendship, being teammates,

being leaders on the men's team at North Carolina, their journey and progression throughout

the years, how they've benefited one another, their ambitions for the future.

We also talk about both of their cross-country seasons individually.

For Ethan, he absolutely knocked it out of the water.

He placed eighth in the country as a guy who I think would consider himself not the biggest fan of cross-country. And then Parker, on the other hand, as he details, I think for the first time publicly in this conversation, had a massive injury and setback mid-season where he got to the point where I didn't even think he was going to be able to run the

national meet to then running the national meet and placing seventh at it and beating Ethan by

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