Ladies and gentlemen, if you are a fan of track and field, if you're a fan of running, if you're interested in running, this conversation is for you.

It is a conversation with two legends as I nicknamed them three years ago, the villains, the bad boys of the sport, Connor Burns and Simian Burnbaum, who run for the University of Oregon, one of the most prestigious programs in track and field history. And they themselves have risen to the top ranks of the country,

as teammates, as very, very close friends. As training partners, they're crushing it. They're

finally coming onto the scene as people expected all those years back when they were dominating

in high school. And this is a raw and honest conversation ahead of the

26th and Stable A indoor championships where Connor and Simeon both will line up for a chance of history in the 3K.

And Simeon additionally will line up for a chance at history in the DMR. In this conversation, as you know,

if you've listened to Simeon and Connor, it's always a wide-ranging discussion, and it is always like the craziest roundtable of randomest subjects in the best way possible that makes a podcast really interesting.

This one is perfect for your next round.

It's going to have you laughing.

We talk about all sorts of subjects from Jerry Schumacher training under him what he's like

the legendary coach in the sport to their training how they got healthy.

Connor's decision to ultimately have an indoor season after his coach wanted him to not

have one at all after a long string of injuries, their perspective going into the NCAA indoor

meat, hot takes from the sport of running and so much more. This episode is so jam-packed conversation between three friends that I can't even remember all the things we talked about. But it's a banger. You guys are going to enjoy it. And if you do, hit the subscribe button so you never miss another conversation. Give us a five-star view. Take next to no time and make sure you share the podcast. That's the easiest way in which we can grow.

Without further ado, enjoy this long-awaited conversation with the villains of the sport

ahead of the 26 NCAA indoor track and field championships, Connor Burns and Simian Burnbaum.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's March Madness. the villains are back, and they're ready to do some damage.

I don't even know where NCAA is held this year, but wherever it's held, they're going to do some damage.

Connor, what are you doing, 5K, Simmy and the DMR and what are you doing, 3K, 1,500?

You guys do so many events, it's hard to keep track of. They're fast and ready. They're capable. What? Yeah, you know, you're way off. We're both in 3K and then I'm in the DMR too. And it's in Fayetteville, Arkansas. I wish I was in the 5K. I never got a chance to qualify this year. I learned one race before conference.

I'll make a confession. I love the sport of running, but with pro college, Brian Burns,

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