Welcome to You Can't Make This Up, a companion podcast from Netflix.

I'm Rebecca Lervoy and I'll be hosting this week's episode.

Here on You Can't Make This Up,

we'll go behind the scenes of Netflix's original true crime stories

with special guests.

This is part two of our mini series about the Innocence Files,

that documentary series that explores three major

causes of wrongful convictions. It was made in consultation with the Innocence Project.

In this episode I have a phone call with Academy Award nominated director Liz Garbus.

Liz's block of episodes investigates the misuse of eyewitness testimony and how a person can

be swayed into pointing to an innocent bystander.

We'll be talking about how a high schooler got caught up

in the 90s gang culture of Southern California

and how an unexpected partnership led

to the freeing of a man in Virginia. There will be spoilers, so make sure you've watched the witness episodes of the Innocence

Files.

We also recorded this episode in our respective homes, so we appreciate your understanding

of the change and our regular audio quality.

Now here's my conversation with Liz. I went to prison at age 18 and I can see the streets into age of 4 to 6.

When I got out of jail, I took my shoes off and just walked around the yard.

Twelve years I haven't touched no grass.

I wonder what would have happened

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