Welcome to You Can't Make This Up, a companion podcast from Netflix.

I'm Rebecca Lervoy and I'll be hosting this week's episode.

Here on You Can't Make make this up we go behind the

scenes of Netflix's original true crime stories with special guests. This is the

final episode of our mini series about the innocence files. This documentary series explores three major

causes of wrongful convictions and it was made in consultation with the innocence project.

In this episode I chat with Academy Award winning director Alex Gibney.

Alex's episodes focus on how individual prosecutors can corrupt the whole justice system.

His episodes cover cases from Philadelphia, Houston, and Michigan.

I'll be speaking with Alex about the racial tensions that come from, quote, tough on crime policies,

the role of journalism in bringing the wrongly convicted to the public eye and

how some prosecutors are incentivized to break the law. There will be spoilers so

make sure you've watched the final three episodes of the Innocence Files.

We also recorded this episode in our separate homes, so we appreciate you understanding the

change in our normal audio quality.

Now here's my conversation with Alex.

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Well, I did want to ask you a couple things because things seem to be percolating in your case.

What should people know about your case?

I don't know if we have enough time for that, happen.

First of all, before all this happens at me, if someone would have said that this is possible, I never would have believed.

Almost 28 years of my life, I mean, this is more than half of my life.

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