Welcome to the Commune podcast. My name is Jeff Krasnow. Today we are revisiting a conversation I had with my old friend, Marianne Williamson, centered around her book, The Mystic Jesus.

Marianne's work has helped millions of people re-examine spiritual teachings through a modern and psychological lens.

In this dialogue, she opens up a way of seeing Jesus not through dogma or institutional religion, but through inner transformation as a

guide to healing and renewal and remembering who we truly are. In this conversation, we explore

the Gnostic and mystical threads of the Jesus story,

the inner kingdom, and how these archetypes mirror our own lives,

the struggles, the ego's resistance, and the moments of resurrection that we all move through.

I am resurfacing this episode because the themes feel so especially relevant today.

So many of us are grappling with uncertainty.

And Marianne offers a reminder that transformation begins within,

with willingness, honesty, and the quiet work of returning to our own right minds.

So settle in.

Here's my conversation with the great Marianne Williamson.

Marianne.

Jeff.

Great to see you.

Always good to see you.

Thank you. I know. We always have some of our most animated conversations off camera. Yes. It's a lifetime thing with you and man. You put me down a Jesus wormhole. Oh, yes. I learned more about Jesus over the last few days and I think I knew my whole life. Well, good. It was good. Good. I'm glad I did.

It was eye-opening.

I went in with a little skepticism.

And I've come out a saved man.

Well, that was really the purpose of the book.

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