The Influence of Psychopaths: Why Humanity Is Better Than We Think
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
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🗓️ 26 September 2025
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
In this week's Frankly, Nate reflects on intraspecies predation (ours) and the impact psychopathic actors have on the mean and median of human behavior – in the past all the way up to our modern society. Human evolution was shaped by both cooperative, pro-social behavior and a competitive, predatory approach for survival – resulting in a balanced distribution for most of humanity's existence.
But, as agriculture, surplus, and other factors propelled more hierarchical social structure, aggregate human behavior and culture has slowly shifted over time to express more psychopathic traits. This thread of behavior continues to run through our modern society, where a relatively small (but disproportionately powerful) segment of the human population can pull societal behavior towards anti-social and individualistic values – even if the majority of people still inherently operate from a place of reciprocity.
Why might our modern society provide a more fruitful breeding ground for psychopathy than past societies did? What do chickens and eggs have to do with psychopathy and the economic superorganism? And ultimately, what strategies could we begin to think about in order to shift mean and median human behavior back towards a more cooperative, prosocial middle?
(Recorded September 22nd, 2025)
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| 0:00.0 | Good morning. I have learned a lot these past few weeks, especially from the podcast from |
| 0:09.6 | Luke Kemp this week and Reed Malloy and Nancy McWilliams on psychopathy. And I want to kind |
| 0:17.1 | to integrate that into something that I didn't understand about what I |
| 0:22.5 | refer to as the global human economic superorganism. |
| 0:27.3 | If you're like me and if you follow this channel, many of you probably are, you often or |
| 0:35.1 | constantly experience some cognitive dissonance, looking at your friends and your |
| 0:43.3 | own values and your community and your feelings and the things you care about. And contrast |
| 0:48.7 | that with the headlines of our pal-mell crazy, polarized, dystopian, functional, dysfunctional world headed for all the things |
| 0:58.7 | that we imagine. |
| 0:59.7 | There is a delta between who we are as individual humans and who we're expressing ourselves are as a global species. |
| 1:15.1 | So today I want to talk about the median human, the mean human, and the predators. |
| 1:23.5 | And my thesis on its surface is depressing, but just underneath the surface is actually quite hopeful. |
| 1:32.4 | At least I find it. |
| 1:33.5 | So I'm going to start with some definitions, give a little background and setup to my thesis |
| 1:41.8 | and offer some brief conclusions on the logic underpinning the economic |
| 1:48.9 | superorganism. |
| 2:00.5 | Okay, first with definitions from the podcast last week, psychopathy on Wikipedia is defined by a personality construct characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, persistent antisocial behavior, along with bold, disinhibited, |
| 2:20.4 | and egocentric traits. These traits are often masked by superficial charm and immunity to stress, |
| 2:29.0 | which create outward appearance of apparent normalcy. Another definition is predator, an organism that |
| 2:38.6 | preys on and eats other animals. And a big old asterisk there, this channel is known |
| 2:46.6 | for wide boundary perspective. We think of predators as a bad thing with respect to human-on-human predation, which I'm |
| 2:56.6 | going to talk about. |
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