Hey there, short waivers, Aaron Scott here.

So we've talked on the show about how people know what to do to confront climate change.

Massively clamp down on our collective carbon emissions and massively ramp up renewable energy production.

And that means building all sorts of wind turbine solar panels, geothermal plants, and hydroelectric projects.

But there are powerful groups working to stop these projects.

And we're not talking here about the fossil fuel industry, at least not today.

We're talking about other environmentalists using laws meant to protect the environment.

So today on the show, we've got an episode for you from MPR's Daily Podcast, The Indicator,

about how green laws are slowing down green projects and highlighting attention between local and global environmentalism.

Plus, there's going to be cute bats.

MPR.

JB Rule is pretty concerned about climate change.

We're running out of time.

We're losing ground.

We are not keeping up with what's needed to get renewable energy on the ground.

JB is a law professor at Vanderbilt University.

And what he's saying is that America is really slow at building green infrastructure.

You know, like solar panels and wind turbines.

And he says, a big reason America is so slow at this is because we've created all kinds of laws and regulations

that allow people to challenge new infrastructure projects, like highways, power plants, and train stations.

And that is great for getting local input on big projects and helping preserve communities,

local landscapes, and endangered species.

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