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Fresh Banana Leaves — An Indigenous Approach To Science

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🗓️ 22 April 2022

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jessica Hernandez's new book examines the role of displacement — Indigenous peoples like her father, who was displaced by the civil war in El Salvador, and plants like the banana tree, brought from Asia to Central America — in science. Jessica, an environmental scientist, talks with Emily about how important it is to make sure that Indigenous people and their knowledge are centered as humans work to save or restore land in the era of climate change.

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0:00.0

Never forget that anywhere you go that is not your home. It's someone's home

0:05.5

And you must pay them respect and build relationships with the land and the people to be welcome into their home

0:12.6

Otherwise, you're walking into their home as an unwelcome guest

0:21.7

You're listening to shortwave from NPR

0:24.4

Jessica Hernandez is a Zapotec and Maya Chorthy environmental scientist and when you ask her about her personal story

0:34.7

Who she is and how she came to write her new book she begins with her father Victor and the Civil War that shaped him

0:42.0

It started in 1979 in El Salvador and devastated his community

0:47.2

One of the things that I wanted to do was like write a book that

0:50.1

Interquated my father's story, especially the perspective of an indigenous child who you know

0:55.4

I 11 like while he saw himself as an adult. He was still a child that had to go through this gruesome reality, right?

1:02.6

Her father's experience as a child soldier is one of the many stories that powers Jessica's new book

1:09.1

Called fresh banana leaves healing indigenous landscapes through indigenous science

1:14.4

It takes a critical look at Western conservation and talks about

1:20.6

Incorporating indigenous knowledge into her field of study environmental science

1:25.5

Knowledge passed down through the generations through folks like her father

1:29.2

One of the things that he always told me was that nature protects us as long as we protect nature

1:33.7

It was a lesson that he put into action even in war during that time when he was in war

1:39.7

There was his banana tree where he will climb up and get bananas for the rest of his comrades now banana trees are

1:47.4

Originally from Asia introduced by the Spanish in the 1500s

1:52.3

But for Jessica's father this tree wasn't invasive

1:57.3

It was a place of refuge when a bomb dropped on top of the banana tree instead of the bomb igniting the leaves kind of wrapped it in the way that

2:04.9

Prevented it from igniting as a result of that right it kind of shows how the banana leaves

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