The Incredible Vanishing President
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 12 January 2021
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump is headed for a second impeachment, a whole lot of people have been charged in federal and local courts in Washington, and an even larger number are probably about to be. What's more, the president's social media accounts have vanished; in fact, one of the very networks on which the president's supporters organized has itself disappeared. To talk through it all, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare's Alan Rozenshtein, Bryce Klehm, David Priess, Quinta Jurecic and Susan Hennessey. They talked about whether impeachment is inevitable now, if the article of impeachment Congress is considering is well-crafted, who has been charged and who is going to be charged, and what we should make of the actions of the tech companies against the president and his allies.
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| 0:29.0 | I'm not necessarily against Congress using a term-like incitement |
| 0:37.0 | in a way that does not necessarily track either First Amendment law or criminal law. |
| 0:43.0 | At the same time, to your point, Ben, it does potentially create some problems in the Senate trial. |
| 0:49.0 | Again, I don't think they're dispositive, and I don't think necessarily that you can really |
| 0:53.0 | wriggle if you're a Republican Senator, wriggle your way out, particularly convincingly, |
| 0:57.0 | based on this technical distinction. I guess what I don't fully understand is why they didn't just list out |
| 1:03.0 | the factual predicates of what happened, and then just accuse President Trump of what's really going on, |
| 1:09.0 | which is gross abuse of power. |
| 1:11.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittes, and this is the LawFair podcast January 12, 2021. |
| 1:17.0 | Donald Trump is headed for a second impeachment. |
| 1:21.0 | A whole lot of people have been charged in federal and local courts in Washington, |
| 1:27.0 | and an even larger number are probably about to be. |
| 1:31.0 | What's more, the President's social media accounts have vanished. |
| 1:36.0 | In fact, one of the very networks on which the President's supporters organized has itself disappeared. |
| 1:44.0 | It's been a heck of a week, and we got together a heck of a group to talk it through. |
| 1:50.0 | LawFair's Alan Rosenstein, Bryce Klam, David Prius, Quinted Geresic, and Susan Hennessy |
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