How would you respond if I told you that, actually, Judas was the only apostle who truly understood what Jesus was doing on earth?

What if I said that Jesus is unrelated to the deity who created the world and that the deity responsible for creating the world is not the same as the deity who created humanity?

It might surprise you to learn that these seemingly blasphemous statements were actually

believed by early Christians. I've got New Testament scholar Bart Erman with me today.

Hello. Hi. Nice to see you, Megan. Nice to deal with this one. Always pleasure. And Bart

is going to be revealing the early Christian Gnostic text responsible for these beliefs. Stay tuned.

Welcome to Missquoting Jesus with Bart Ehrman. The Only Show, where a six-time New York Times

bestselling author and world-renowned Bible scholar, uncovers the many fascinating, little-known

facts about the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the

rise of Christianity.

I'm your host, Megan Lewis.

Let's begin.

Now, Bart, today we are talking about the Gospel of Judas.

When did you first hear about this Gospel?

Ah, okay.

So, Megan, this is going to be a long story.

Excellent.

This is like one of the weirdest things that ever happened to me in my academic life.

I've had some weird things.

In my academic life, nothing quite so strange.

It was literally 20 years ago this month.

I was sitting in my office at Chapel Hill,

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