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Hello, it's that time of year.

Holidays behind us or even ahead of us.

One in three of us now take winter breaks,

either to visit friends and family or just to find some much-needed winter sun, which means

planes, trains, departure lounges, station buffets, chilly platforms, coffee, endless bloody coffee,

other people's children,

Tanoi announcements, checking the departures board or screen over and over again,

too much fresh air, too much central heating, dry skin, desiccating air conditioning,

fed up with partner, fed up with journey, fed up with life.

Or maybe that's just me.

But there is something about these neither here nor their

places. Today on free thinking, we're talking about the in-between. Does it make us feel like

this? How about this?

Joining me to discuss the potential or otherwise of the in-between are the poet Vani Capildeo,

writer and Walker Ian Sinclair, the artist Alexandra Carr, neuroscientist Dean Burnett and philosopher Emily Thomas.

Ian, you walk and write and write and walk. Have you got much experience of that waiting around feeling?

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