It's Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams here.

Our podcast, my therapist, ghosted me, celebrates the special therapy that only true friends can offer.

I.e. laughing with you and laughing at you.

Precisely. This week we're supported by married at first sight,

with more total strangers getting to know each other after getting married.

The perfect time to do that.

Stream the brand new series on Channel 4 and watch live on E4.

And listen to my therapist ghosted me on Global Player.

This is a Global Player original podcast.

Danny Wallace.

Radio X.

Well, hello and welcome to another important broadcast podcast for you.

And I hope, finally, you'll actually start listening.

Not just to the words, not just to the thoughts, not just to the parables, not just to the lessons, but to the silences.

I thought that's what you were going to say. The gaps, it's what he doesn't say. It's what I don't

say for how long and when. But it also is about what you do say. But it's also very much about

what I do say. Don't just try and be all smart and go through this podcast

and stick it into some audio editing software you happen to have

and then edit all the silences together.

Don't think that will impress me.

That one. It will impress me, Joe. That's why I left

that little silence there. It was a moment of contemplation and thought. And it was a technique used

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