I think a lot of times we see church, family, retreats, Catholic schools, Catholic organizations.

I think sometimes we see them as like walls that protect us.

And certainly we have to have that, right?

A family should be a safe place.

There's no question.

But one of the things about this book in particular is I think it's going to be an awesome

kind of impetus for the family to be more of a springboard to go out.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to every knee shall bow your seasonal Catholic podcast on evangelization and discipleship.

This is Dave Van Vickle, and sadly, I'm not joined by my co-hosts Michael Gomer Gormley.

Gomer's feeling under the weather this morning, which stinks for us, but we're going to soldier on here.

Actually, today's not that bad of a day for him to be sick, because I'm joined by two

awesome co-hosts today.

I'm very excited about this.

I've known these guys for a while.

Adam Minahan and David Niles, author of a new book put out by Ascension Press,

Living Beyond Sunday, Making Your Home a Holy Place. Dave, Adam, how are you guys doing?

Hey, I'm doing great. Although I got to tell you that I think Gomer's just totally, he's playing hooky here.

Like, just because we're from Tulsa, he's from Tulsa.

Right, it's a weird deal.

I was, yeah, I was, I was thinking like, okay, good, we'll have some, some Tulson on here,

but I think he's just, he bailed on us.

And I was excited. I was like excited to see what he was going to say about you, like his intro to you. I was thinking all these different things he was going to say. And now he's not even here.

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