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The Red Nation Podcast

The Imperial Slingshot w/ Charisse Burden-Stelly

The Red Nation Podcast

The Red Nation

History, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

TRN Podcast host Nick Estes live in conversation with Charisse Burden-Stelley.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm I'm This is not a lot of me.

0:31.6

This is Nick Estes with the Red Nation podcast.

0:36.6

We are so fortunate today to be joined by returning guests.

0:43.0

It's been too long.

0:44.0

Yeah, I got.

0:45.0

Dr. Jerez-Burdenselli.

0:46.5

Do you want to introduce yourself?

0:48.4

Maybe give a shout out to any organizations that you're working with.

0:53.4

Sure. Yeah, I'm Sheree Brennan Steli.

0:55.0

I'm an associate professor of African American Studies at Wayne State,

0:59.0

a member of the anti-imperialist scholars collective,

1:02.0

and a delinquent member of Black Alliance for Peace.

1:05.0

Sorry, y'all. I don't do very much in the organization right now,

1:08.0

but we'll always rep the set. And just overall,

1:12.9

beleaguered, denizen of this hellscape. So thanks for having me again. Yeah, thanks for

1:19.4

joining. It's been, I don't even, I was trying to remember when the timeline is so off right now,

1:24.5

things have really escalated in this, in this particular moment, but so much has happened

1:29.2

between our last conversation and now too much time has passed. Let's just say that. You published

1:34.0

a book, a really excellent book. Black scare, Red Scare, super useful back there. Your mom painted

1:42.7

the cover too. She did. Yes. Yes. It is really cool.

1:48.6

And you recently just, I don't have a copy of it. I haven't had a chance to order it, but I did

1:53.3

get a chance to read. You recently did the introduction for a Haymarket book. If you want to hold

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