My name is Amic Manis and you're listening to The Battle Ready Podcast. I'm here with my dad,

Earl McManis, and a special guest, Joe Smith, pastor Joe Smith. He was right here. So good

to have you. It is so good to be here. Man, it's an honor. Thank you guys.

I won't point your Instagram handle was Joe Smith. It was like a smurf, but Smith.

Just trying to keep it back in the day, wasn't it? Yeah, for a long time. That was before you

had self-respect. It's why. It was back when Instagram was more like an A-well instant measure

thing. 100%. And I was, if I'm being adult, I need to drop the Fs and I need to add the TH.

And how old are you? We decided to become an adult. Maybe 33. 33. That's pretty good for your

Joe. And your full name is Joseph Smith. It is indeed. No connection. No, you're the founder

of the Mormon church. In my spare time, I do form religions and invest in a small estate called Utah.

Did you watch the mortar among the Mormons? I haven't. Yeah, but I saw the trailer and I was like,

yeah, that's my people. It's kind of easy. I don't think your people had your people in.

So long time. They did not. There was an issue. And as a black man, forming a world

religion that doesn't really like your kind. Some listen to battle ready and some watch battle ready.

Yes. So if you're listening to battle ready and you're not feeling it, Joseph Smith,

he is a black man. I know the name doesn't lend itself, but it's a little bit in my family.

Yes. Jamal. There's a Romante, Dineshia, Deneer, and then Joe. What's your brother's name? Jamal.

Jamal. Yeah. Okay. And they were like, Joseph. Yeah, because my mom let her sister name me

because she passed out on the delivery table and and her boyfriend at the time,

same with Joseph. So like, after deep meaning, my mom's sister's boyfriend. Yeah. That's

a little cold. Yeah. I love your mom. I appreciate you. But I would have loved a little more

flair than Joe. My mom had a man on the subway and led his girlfriend. I don't know,

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