Hey, welcome back to Unlimited Hangout. I'm your host, Whitney Webb. Today I'm joined once again by

Robbie Martin of Media Roots to discuss three topics in U.S. politics and foreign policy that are

really relevant today, including Biden's recent announcement on Afghanistan, the U.S. Mexico

border crisis, particularly regarding migrant children, and recent revelations regarding the events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6th. Great to have you back, Robbie. How's it going? It's going well. Thanks for having you back, Wendy. Well, absolutely. So since we're hoping to cover a lot today, I'm keeping the intro a little shorter than normal. So for those of you that don't know, Robbie, he is a documentary filmmaker, musician, and hosts of the Media Roots podcast, and also

maim politics on YouTube. And not to inflate your ego too much, Robbie, but you are definitely

one of the most well-versed people I know on the neo-conservatives or neocons, as they're

popularly called. And you have a great documentary series on

their rise called A Very Heavy Agenda that I encourage everyone to check out. So one really important

aspect you explore in that series is how the Bush-era neocons became or were closely connected

to the Obama-era neoliberals. And since then, we've seen people like that from both of those

administrations later hold prominent roles in the Trump and now Biden administrations.

And one of the policy areas where these groups coalesce is the U.S. war in Afghanistan, which

most people should know by now is the U.S.'s longest war ever.

Given your knowledge of these intertwined foreign policy

circles that have dominated post-9-11 foreign policy in the U.S., who are some of the key

actors and organizations that have allowed U.S. Afghanistan policy to remain essentially the same

for, you know, 20 years now? Well, it's a hard question to tackle just because there's been so many people over the years.

But I'll start with the main guy now who seems to be creating some continuity between the Trump policy and the Biden policy is Zalmi

Zalmi Khaliazad, I believe is how he pronounce his name.

He is an Egyptian-born, I believe, a member or former member of the project for the New

American Century.

He was actually one of the only people in the Project for the New American Century. He was actually one of the only people in the Project for the New

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