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Yeah. I mean, you know, in the book, I pay a lot of attention to a group I call the thinkers.

It's a group of intellectuals affiliated with the movement called the New Right, many of whom have come out of the Claremont Institute or are affiliated with the Claremont Institute and other think tanks like Heritage Foundation.

If you look at Project 2025, I think it's got a real,

it's a real, you can see the marriage between the religious right and the new right. And,

you know, technically I would say the intellectuals on the new right aren't quite what you'd call

Christian nationalist, although some are, you know, like Vote is more self-identifies as a Christian

nationalist, and he's director of Trump's Office of Management and Budget and was the sort of architect,

one of the architects of Project 2025. But other thinkers in this movement, frankly, seem really

nihilistic. I mean, some draw inspiration from political theorists

associated with the Nazis. I kid you not. It's almost more driven by campus politics or

political conflicts than anything else. They're always criticizing elites, but they really want to be

a new elite. And they really have played a really critical role and bring funders

together with, I would say, the rank and file of the Christian nationalist movement.

Let's talk about the sergeants and the infantry and the power players. Who are these,

who are in these categories of people and the roles that they play in this effort to undermine our democracy?

Thank you. The infantry is a sort of rank and file that has to be persuaded to vote for the hyper-conservative,

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