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The Bulwark Podcast

'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral'

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Do you have to pick a side in politics? That was the question Reason Magazine, the flagship publication of the libertarian movement, invited The Bulwark to debate. In a panel moderated by Reason features editor and Across the Movie Aisle co-host Peter Suderman, Sarah and Tim debated picking sides with Reason editors-at-large Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie.

The debate was sharp, occasionally heated, enlightening, and definitely amusing. The results were . . . resounding. Watch for yourself.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Peter Sutterman.

0:10.4

I'm going to be your moderator tonight.

0:11.9

And full disclosure, I do work at reason.

0:14.9

But I also appear on a podcast that has run through the bulwark.

0:19.0

So I'll try to be fair and not take sides.

0:22.4

However, that might be a little bit complicated given our resolution, which is you don't have to

0:28.9

pick a side in politics. So if I'm not taking sides, am I actually kind of taking sides?

0:35.0

I think that's the sort of thing that's going to come up in tonight's debate. Now, because this is a debate, there will be a winner, and that winner will be

0:43.4

decided by you, the audience. The way this is going to work is there are going to be two votes.

0:49.3

The first vote, you've either already voted or you should vote right now, and then there's

0:54.1

going to be another vote after the debate happens.

0:56.0

And the team that wins will be the team that moves the most number of people towards their position.

1:03.0

So if you have not yet cast your vote, please follow the instructions on the screen and vote now.

1:10.0

As you do that, I want you to think just a little bit about the resolution before us tonight.

1:17.6

What does it mean to pick aside in politics?

1:20.6

We are gathered here this evening in Washington, D.C., where national politics is dominated by two political parties that are constantly asking you to pick a side.

1:30.7

When Americans go to the voting booth, most of them pull the lever for one of those two parties,

1:35.1

and in the vast majority of races, one of those two parties wins.

1:39.5

Fundamentally, voting in a democracy is about picking sides.

1:43.8

The very structure of American politics all but forces you to do so. Ultimately, voting in a democracy is about picking sides.

1:44.4

The very structure of American politics all but forces you to do so.

1:49.0

And if you decide not to, are you throwing away your influence?

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