All right welcome listeners to episode 77 of Know Your Enemy. I'm Matt Sipman your podcast co-host and I'm here as always with my great friend Sam

other bell. Hey Sam. Hi Matt, you're back from sunny California. Yeah, I'm a new man. Are you bringing the West Coast vibes and chill attitude?

Honestly, no. As soon as I got back within one of the burrows of New York City, I immediately felt all my anxiety,

neuroticism and despair return in full force. Like a like a wave of humid heat just hit me and I was

immediately a wreck again, but I really did feel a lot of lucidity and calm when I was on the West Coast.

Well, you know, I'll be honest, just come out with it right away. This is an episode that I have not in the

pit of my stomach putting it out. I'll be very interested to see how listeners respond. Me too. Do you want

to tell them what we're up to this episode? The log line would be we are looking into several instances

of prominent young conservative pundits and operatives getting into trouble for being very, very racist.

And one of those young conservatives who got in trouble was Nate Hawkman who we as many listeners will

remember we had on this podcast in December 2021 and we thought it was time to revisit that episode.

Sort of just talk about how we did and how we've ended up in this situation.

Yes, though by the end, you know, we kind of zoom out a little bit and end up talking about our

approach to the conversations we have on the podcast more generally and also kind of what these

three examples and the one of Nate in particular kind of tells us about where the right is at right now.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think we need to give anything else away. I'm sure we'll hear from the listeners

about this episode. Should we do some housekeeping that? Yes, as always, we're grateful to our partners

at descent. They sponsor the podcast. We love partnering with them. And one thing they do for us is

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you get a free digital subscription to descent. And of course, if you subscribe to $5 a month at

the young Americans for freedom tier, you get access to all of our bonus episodes, which I want to

plug one of them. Our roast recent one was on conservative fans of the grateful dead. And it was

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