I do think like a huge thing for why the dead

has remained so popular over this course

of years and so many different iterations.

And it's just the nature of the concerts is so crazy.

You're not going to a concert that, you know,

you show up, you wait around a while,

and then the concert starts and you leave.

It's ideally kind of like a full day experience

where you go to the lot for a while.

And you're just kind of like in this crazy collective experience

that I think there are a lot of parallels you can draw,

you know, pretty easy parallels with like certain types

of religious experiences, sports.

Trump rallies.

Trump rallies, you know, huge groups of people

having a really good time, having a collective experience,

that kind of yearning for that has always been there.

And I think crosses a lot of political boundaries

and even can be coded kind of conservative.

Well, there's a seeking of transcendence, you know,

all these people from all these different walks of life,

different white walks of life are there.

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