After since we spoke, I've been sleeping exceptionally well. I don't know why that is. Maybe the pep talk

you gave me about how important it is to sleep well and to be thinking about your hands has paid off.

Maybe it was the, um, soporific effect of listening to me go on a rant about the importance of sleeping.

I think the importance of sleeping is all highly underrated. So I'm semi-evangelical about the need to sleep well. The problem is that I'm a late-night person. So I... This is actually very hypocritical of us, Peter, because we actually do send messages to each other at like 1 or 2 a.m. as we're thinking about episodes. We are not modelling good sleep behaviour here. So how come you're

awake at that time of night? I'm a late night person too. The thing is, that's when I get my best work

done. In my ideal world, I would then be able to sleep late. And so my grievances with a society

that is structured around the requirement that you get up early, because I would rather arrange my day

so that it starts later and finishes later. But, you know, I have a child in school and I have

people who work office hours that I have to have meetings with and it doesn't quite work. But

if I'm writing, like if I'm on kind of writing retreat mode where I have control of my time,

I really will work till two or three in the

morning and then get up at 10. The right thing to do is to put your devices away. I think that's a

challenge. So I've written all my books late into the night and you're right when the phone

doesn't ring and you can concentrate, but it's the curse of having your mobile devices nearby.

You could be super efficient with them, but they are a real challenge.

And I think that they have obviously a negative correlation with mental health.

The fact you're constantly having to check what's been coming in and that you feel you need to reply to them in real time.

I think it's not good for anybody's emotional state

of mind because, and I hate the fact I'm reaching for it.

Maybe the challenges of modern life are so excessive that that's the reason people are

reaching for more supernatural and magical solutions, because today we are looking at the legacy

of shamans, oracles and gurus. And there is

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