Hello and welcome to a new episode of Legacy. I'm Peter Frank Abbot. I'm Fahash.

And this is Legacy, the show that explores the lives, events and ideas that shaped our world,

and asks whether they have the reputations that they truly deserve.

This is Women and Healing Part One,

the strange story of the penis nest trapped in a tree.

I mean, penis nest, afa, could you just explain this one? This is your chapter heading.

And when we, or title heading, when we set this one up, I wasn't expecting either of those

words. Do we need to get, going to have to listen to at least

halfway through to understand what that's all about? Yeah, I'm not giving that away. But I promise

you the penis nest trapped in a tree is arguably one of the most significant ideas to have ever

affected women's relationship to healing and history.

So you're going to have to listen to the whole episode to find out why.

But I want to start by asking Peter whether you have ever paid for an IV vitamin drip.

Do you know what? I've never had an IV drip, but I unfortunately, like everybody,

listening to this getting older, and so I'm very conscious of the fact that as I move into middle and later middle age, that I should

be looking after myself. So I've started to read a bit more about supplements, vitamins,

IV, oxygen tents, and generally, I think probably like a lot of men think that the

right way to do with it is to read it and then close the book or turn things off and then forget

about it. Have you had an IV drip? I have. It was one of those moments where I felt like I had

fully become the most ridiculous version of myself, went to a really nice clinic where you lie in,

it's almost like a sunbed, you know, like a heated chair and some nice nurse hooks you up

to a very high dose of vitamin C and vitamin B complexes and other things that boost your immunity.

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