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Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Ziren. Thilled to have on the show today, the author of two of my favorite sports books.

He is the person who has given us, I Fight for a Living, Boxing in the Battle for Black

Manhood, 1880 to 1915, and the absolutely iconic book,

We Will Win the Day, the Civil Rights Movement,

the Black Athlete, and The Quest for Equality.

He has a new book out, which is getting all kinds of buzz.

It's called The Great Black Hope.

Doug Williams, Vince Evans, and the Making of the Black

Quarterback. His name, Dr. Lewis Moore. Dr. Moore, how are you doing, sir? I am great.

Thank you for having me. No, thrilled to have you on the show. I'm thrilled to talk about

this topic. But, you know, we've got a lot of listeners on our program who aren't necessarily football

fans.

They listen because we're where sports and politics collide.

So some people listen for the politics and some people know their sports.

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