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Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast, brought to you by the Nation magazine. I'm Dave Ziron. This week, I'm so excited about the show. We're speaking to New York Times bestselling author who writes about the subject that we care about deeply on this podcast, the intersection of sports, history, politics, and context.

That's what's so important about this writer is that he brings in the context of what sports is all about and how struggle and politics and important, important parts of our shared history come through the world of sports.

He is also the special projects director at Vanderbilt University in the athletic department

where he manages the Sports and Society Initiative pretty damn cool at a school that once called

Grantland Rice student.

His name is Andrew Marinus. Andrew, how you doing, sir? I'm doing great, Dave.

You caught me on a week where I've probably rarely been happier. Well, we're going to talk about

that. And we're going to talk about your latest nonfiction chapter book series about athletes

who step beyond sports to make a difference. three books in this series all written by Andrew all illustrated beautifully and we're going to give credit to the illustrator as well but i believe the last name hodge is that correct yeah dandra hodge that's right hodge just beautiful illustrations and the books are about pat tillman, Maya Moore, and LeBron James, three people we've also

talked about a great deal on this show.

So I'm excited to break down with Andrew how he translated these complicated stories for

a young audience.

But first and foremost, Andrew, I mentioned that you teach

at Vanderbilt. You run the Sports and Society initiative. And Vanderbilt's been in the news a great

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