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The Himalayan Land Grab

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2021

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The Great Himalayan National Park in India is among the most dramatic landscapes on Earth. Count the layers in a single panoramic photo of the park and you might see mountains, glaciers, old-growth forests, and alpine meadows. But National Parks are defined by two things: first, an abundance of wildlife and majestic landscapes; and second, no permanent human presence. So, before anybody was ever invited to visit the park, authorities first told about 15,000 local people to stay out. This episode is the first of two stories reported by freelance journalist Yardain Amron.  In this tale, he explores the strategies of conservation at work in India’s Tirthan Valley, and what it took to create The Great Himalayan National Park over the course of two decades. What does it mean to “protect” the natural world? Who is doing the protecting, and who should it be protected from? SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.  Subscribe to our newsletter. LINKS To learn more about this approach to conservation, check out our episode on the origins of Yellowstone National Park, “Fortress Conservation.” Dorceta Taylor, “The Rise of the American Conservation Movement.” Bram Buscher and Robert Fletcher, “The Conservation Revolution.” CREDITS Host: Justine Paradis Reported and produced by Yardain Amron Edited by Taylor Quimby, with help from Justine Paradis Executive Producer: Rebecca Lavoie Mixed by Yardain Amron and Taylor Quimby Additional Editing: Felix Poon and Jessica Hunt Translation: Vibha Kumar Special thanks to Guman Singh and Tony Gaston. Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder Additional Music by Blue Dot Sessions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today, we've got a story about a slow burning standoff.

0:06.9

On one side, people angrily demanding the right to graze livestock on federal land.

0:13.8

On the other side, government officials determined to uphold the laws that they know.

0:19.9

Tensions reached the boiling point earlier this week.

0:24.8

You'd be forgiven for thinking that this story takes place in the Western United States.

0:30.2

Wyoming or Nevada.

0:32.2

We haven't lost this battle. We just barely begin.

0:35.8

US Rangers are brand new.

0:37.0

That this is another Clive and Bundy tale.

0:39.4

About ranchers and militiamen refusing to pay taxes or taking arms against the Bureau of Land Management.

0:45.8

The public land belongs to the people of Clark County. I want to share that land with them.

0:50.9

It's not my land. It's your land.

0:53.7

But this isn't a uniquely American tale.

1:05.6

And our story today takes place thousands of miles away from the US borders in a place called the Tierton Valley in India.

1:14.3

Just outside the borders of the Great Himalayan National Park.

1:18.4

Did you go into the park itself?

1:21.0

It's interesting. I actually did not.

1:24.4

This is freelance journalist Yardane Amron.

1:27.5

He traveled to the Tierton Valley in 2019 and 2020.

1:31.2

It's a long one and a half.

1:33.5

It potentially depends how fast you go, but potentially one and a half day trek to the entrance, the official entrance of the park.

1:42.1

And so this actually is a strategic when the park designers like that design because it keeps people out of the park.

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