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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

The Hilary Benn One

Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

BBC

News, Politics

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2018

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

The Chair of the Brexit Committee on Theresa May's options, why he disagreed with his father's views on Europe and the art of keeping a diary

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0:00.0

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0:05.2

Theresa May could be forgiven for feeling rather lonely, wherever she looks or critics of

0:12.5

her leadership and her approach.

0:16.1

But in many ways she brought this on herself, she used to boast about not liking to gossip

0:22.0

in the tea rooms, about not spending time in parliament when she wasn't working in

0:27.4

not really making friends.

0:30.1

Indeed one of those who is seen as a friend of hers in politics once confided to me that

0:36.5

they'd only been to the May house once in many decades.

0:42.4

The sort of person who's helped Theresa May needs, if she's to see off the threat from

0:47.1

the Brexit ears, is those on the Labour benches who will not simply follow Jeremy Corbyn's

0:53.2

lead, who are pro-European and might vote for her deal.

0:58.0

People like Hillary Ben, my guest on the podcast this week, the man who currently chairs the

1:03.6

select committee that monitors the Brexit department.

1:07.9

I do think that one of the lessons for the Prime Minister not only does her own party

1:11.6

think she doesn't listen and reach out to them, she hasn't reached out to anybody else.

1:16.4

And when the country is so driven by this question, then the government has responsibilities

1:22.3

to take the lead in trying to reach consensus, and then I agree with you, the opposition

1:26.2

has a responsibility then to respond.

1:29.1

Making friends in politics is not just about making the effort, it's also about making

1:34.7

sure that you don't make fools of people who are out in public being loyal to you.

1:41.9

Is the vote definitely 100% going to happen?

1:45.9

Yes.

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