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🗓️ 8 December 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Hey team,
Today, we've got a heavy but necessary topic. We're looking at what happens when ADHD goes unsupported and the stakes get high. In this episode, I'm joined by Sarah Templeton, a counselor, activist, and author of The Prison Counselor. Sarah spent years working inside the UK prison system before getting her own diagnosis at age 51, which led to some massive realizations about the people she was working with.
In our conversation today, we look at the startling prevalence of neurodiversity in the prison population and how a lack of diagnosis fuels a cycle of reoffending. We explore the stark reality of the "school to prison pipeline" and the specific ADHD traits that land people in legal trouble. It's not just about being a trouble-maker, but about impulsivity, risk-taking, and a heightened sense of justice. And I know that last one might sound counterintuitive, but don't worry, we get into that in the episode.
This is an incredibly important episode to me because I believe that it's one of my jobs to use my privilege as someone with an audience to highlight the struggles in our community from some of our most underserved populations. And our ADHD siblings in prison are definitely a prime example of people who had the system fail them and are now paying the price.
Before we get started, I also just wanted to mention that there is some talk of suicide in this episode, so if that is something you are sensitive about, I just wanted to let you know.
If you'd like to follow along on the show notes page, you can find that at HackingYourADHD.com/260
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hacking Your ADHD. I'm your host, William Curb, and I have ADHD. On this |
| 0:10.0 | podcast, I dig into the tools, tactics, and best practices to help you work with your ADHD brain. |
| 0:16.2 | Hey team, today we've got a bit of a heavy topic, but it's quite necessary. We're looking at |
| 0:22.1 | what happens when ADHD goes unsupported and the stakes get high. In this episode, I'm joined |
| 0:27.3 | by Sarah Templeton, a counselor, activist, and author of the prison counselor. Sarah spent |
| 0:32.1 | years working inside the UK prison system before getting her own diagnosis at age 51, which led to some massive |
| 0:38.3 | realizations about the people she was working with. In our conversation today, we look |
| 0:43.0 | at the startling prevalence of neurodiversity in the prison population and how lack of diagnosis |
| 0:48.6 | fuels a cycle of reoffending. We explore the stark reality of the school to prison pipeline |
| 0:53.9 | and the specific ADHD |
| 0:55.2 | traits that land people in legal trouble. It's not just about being a troublemaker, but about |
| 1:00.7 | impulsivity, risk-taking, and a heightened sense of justice. And I know that last one |
| 1:05.9 | might sound a bit counterintuitive, but we definitely get into why in the episode. This is an incredibly important |
| 1:11.6 | episode to me because I believe that it's one of my jobs to use my privilege as someone with an |
| 1:16.3 | audience to highlight the struggles in our community from some of our most underserved populations. |
| 1:21.5 | And our ADHD siblings in the prison system are definitely a prime example of people |
| 1:25.6 | who've had the system fail down, and now are |
| 1:28.0 | paying the price. Before we get started, I also just wanted to mention that there is some talk of |
| 1:32.6 | suicide in this episode, so if that's a sensitive topic to you, I just wanted to let you know before |
| 1:36.8 | we started going. If you'd like to follow along on the show notes page, you can find that at |
| 1:41.2 | hacking your ADHD.com slash 260. |
| 1:48.9 | All right, keep on listening to find out how the school to prison pipeline is failing neurodivergent kids all over the world. |
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