What if the reason you're not reaching financial independence has nothing to do with how much you earn,

but everything to do with how you think? Today, Scott is breaking down his CEO toolkit.

Yes, it was originally aimed at people who eventually want to become a leader,

but there are tactics every and anyone can take away to become better employees.

Welcome to the Bigger Pockets Money podcast. My name is Mindy Jensen. With me as always is my used to be a CEO co-host, Scott Trench.

Thanks, Mindy. Great to be here and just love the executive function that you bring to every single

one of these podcasts here every day. So yeah, as you said, Mindy, I was a CEO. And so I,

I was trained to think like a CEO. It was, there was a little bit, there's some instinctive,

I like to think there's some baseline passion for bigger pockets, for the world that,

you know, of personal finance and financial independence that came in and some, some skills I brought to bear on that. But the world of personal finance and financial independence that came in and some skills

I brought to bear on that.

But the toolkit of becoming a CEO was trained in me by my former boss, by many, many mentors,

but primarily by a former boss who I'd like to give a shout out here to.

His name was Mike Zawalski.

And Mike has been a CEO or operating chairman, a CEO coach or boss for many, many years across many different experiences.

And I was very fortunate to give a chance to be mentored personally by him for five years.

And one of the things he told me to do early on in my career was build my CEO toolkit, the playbook I use, the frameworks I use

that I can apply to many situations.

And so I thought I'd share that today, heavily inspired by the things he taught me, and say

that this is something that I think many more people should do over the course of their careers.

This is a hard one toolkit, right? It takes many

years to really define and build artifacts, the types of spreadsheets or presentations or those

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