when you try to lose weight, but your body fat is full of seed oils and other impurities and other

toxins. Burning that fat creates a toxic situation because by metabolizing it, you're releasing all

that sort of bad stuff. Your body might literally decide, hey, I don't want to be overwhelmed

by toxic stuff. So no matter what you do to me, I'm not going to burn this fat. The body is saying

it's literally preferable to keep being fat while also starving than to burn, I'm not going to burn this fat. The body is saying it's literally preferable

to keep being fat while also starving than to burn this stuff and release it into your blood.

And people don't know this and they fight against their body, right? And then this creates

a whole bunch of psychological and physiological misery as people are trying to suppress their

appetite and whatnot.

What's going on everybody?

Hey, you guys.

Welcome back to another episode of The Macro Hour.

And today I am sitting down with Stephen Rofrano.

He is the co-founder and CEO of Ancient Crunch.

And someone who has made it his mission to expose what's really going on in our food system. So today we're going to talk about stuff most people don't want to admit

like why it's hard to feel good in today's world, how food became toxic, and what it actually takes to reclaim your health.

So Stephen, welcome to the Macro Hour.

Thanks, Nicky.

Happy to be here.

And as I was just saying, I'm really excited to dive into this topic because this is something

that hasn't been exposed on the Macro Hour yet.

So before we first, though, dive into all of the things that I want to chat with you about

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