The Hidden Cost of Mormon Belief: Conditioned From Childhood
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Bill Reel
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🗓️ 13 May 2026
⏱️ 114 minutes
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Summary
What if the harm didn’t start with a crisis… but with what you were taught as a child? In this episode of Mormonism Live, we sit down with researcher and clinician Samuel Clemens, PhD, LCSW, to unpack his groundbreaking study on religious trauma among former Latter-day Saints—particularly those who identify as sexual minorities. This isn’t… Read More »The Hidden Cost of Mormon Belief: Conditioned From Childhood
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| 0:00.0 | Good evening, everybody. Mormonism live. It's Monday, sorry, Wednesday, April 29th, 2026. And we're |
| 0:08.9 | grateful for the chance to have this conversation with you folks today. For all of you who are |
| 0:13.0 | watching live, I think you're really going to enjoy it. This will be a great conversation. So please |
| 0:16.7 | participate in the live chat off to the side. Tonight's conversation is wrapped around |
| 0:22.3 | research that Samuel Clemens, who's our guest tonight, has done in terms of the kind of programming |
| 0:29.7 | in behaviors of the LDS Church that affect us from childhood all the way through late adulthood. |
| 0:36.5 | And what those, what kind of effects that, that we take on, uh, because of the behaviors of the LDS church, whether it's trauma, whether it's certain kinds of programming, the way that we show up in life. And so RFM, by the way, how are you doing tonight? I'm doing great. Thank you so much. Excellent. Excellent. So I'm going to bring Sam on. Let me clear up the, |
| 0:57.1 | the graphics here for just a second. I'll put the names up and bring Sam on. Samuel Clemens, |
| 1:04.3 | how are you doing today? I'm doing great. Hello, if that is your real name. Yes, Samuel Clemens is my real name. |
| 1:13.9 | I am related to Mark Twain. |
| 1:17.2 | Samuel Clemens is his real name, and he is my fourth great-grandfather's cousin, if I can think back to the lineage. |
| 1:24.7 | So it is your real name? |
| 1:26.0 | Yes. |
| 1:27.4 | Look at that. Radio Free Mormon's my real name too. |
| 1:31.8 | There we go. Sam, I wonder if you'll start us off. Tell us your credentials. Tell us a little bit |
| 1:37.9 | about who you are. And then tell us about what got you heading in the direction of doing this |
| 1:43.8 | research to begin with. And then we'll start asking some questions about what got you heading in the direction of doing this research to begin with. |
| 1:46.1 | And then we'll start asking some questions about what it is that you discovered |
| 1:49.7 | in your work to find out more about how being a Mormon affects people at the human level. |
| 1:57.1 | Yeah, absolutely. |
| 1:58.9 | So I'll try to make a long story short, but essentially my study involves a lot of my own life experience. And so as I give examples from my study, I'm also going to be giving a lot of my own life examples too. You know, there are kind of three points that I'm coming from in today's interview. |
| 2:22.8 | One, it's the experience that I had in the LDS church. |
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