Light that spark fire nation. JLD here and welcome to entrepreneurs on fire brought to you by

high level the all-on-one sales and marketing platform. Today we'll be breaking down the hidden

bottleneck in your business, your nervous system and what top AI founders are doing about it.

And to draw these vibe bombs, I brought Stephen versus us in the EFIRE studios.

Stephen is the CEO of Journey, which is trained over 1,400 people, including OpenAI and

anthropic founders, to reach profound meditative states in a week, which previously believed

required to take thousands of hours. So today we talk about why meditation fails,

stress and performance, accessing alter states, and oh, so much more.

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High level fire.com. Stephen, say what's up to Fire Nation and share something that you believe

about becoming successful that

most people disagree with. Most people think of success is coming from intelligence, hustle,

or strategy. And I think maybe the biggest unfair advantage is what I might call nervous system mastery,

your fluency over your own interstate. I think if you can answer into an advanced meditative

state in particular, an altered state using just attention and emotion, no drugs, no breathwork,

nothing else, if you can prove that you're navigating your own nervous system at that level,

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