Welcome to The Henn Report from Our Henn House.

I'm Jasmine Singer. I'm Mary Ann Sullivan.

So excited about our chat today. Just a quick reminder, first, that the Our Henn House podcasts are now divided up into all of these.

Jasmine, everybody already knows this.

Yeah, I know, but what do you call it when you go out to eat?

And it's like, oh, like tapas.

It's like to the tapas of podcasts, sort of.

We'll put that on the official Apple podcast page.

The top is a vegan podcast.

Rising Anxieties comes out on Tuesdays. The Hen Report on Thursdays, the long-form interview on Fridays.

Bonus for flock members comes out on Mondays. We're on YouTube. We're on audio podcasts. We're in your living room. That would be weird. We're not. We might be if you're listening there.

Hit subscribe and like wherever you listen. And sometimes, sometimes when you're lucky and when we're lucky, we have a guest for The Hen Report.

And today is one of those days.

We call our wingman.

Our wingman.

And I have to say, I don't think we've ever had a woman on it.

And we really have to fix that, but we're not fixing it today. Okay. We can, in my opinion. But a woman can be a wingman. Yeah. I would call, I would call her a wingman as well. Yeah, absolutely. Unless she objected to that, in which case, we would. We would. Oh, my God. Okay. Ackberg Khan. I think it's Ackber, isn't it? Ackberg. Akber. Did I say Ack? You said A. New Jersey? Okay, I'm sorry. Common mistake. Don't worry about it. It's okay. Ackberg Khan, who is a law student at Harvard Law School and works with Marianne on the Animal Law Podcast, is here with us. Welcome to The Hen Report. Akra. Thank you so much for hopping on with us. Thank you both for having me. Long time, first time. So really happy to be here.

Cool. Well, we're excited too. And I know that you've been working with Marianne on the Animal Law podcast, and we're just delighted that you're in the Arnhun House world here and looking forward to picking your brain a little bit today.

So, Marian, how did this come about?

We were texting back and forth about the thing that everybody is talking about and texting about, you know, pretty much nothing else about the state of the world, the state of the country, the state of

Minneapolis, all of it. And in the context of how we talk about animal issues, when all of that's

going on, I mean, it's something we've talked about on the podcast before. And it's constantly

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