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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

The Health Emergency Hiding in Rising Seas

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Persephonica

News, Planet, Business, Society & Culture, Current Affairs, Green, Policy, Finance, Society, Environment, Science, Energy, Climate

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Sea-level rise is often spoken about in centimetres, forecasts and future scenarios. But what if we understood it as a health emergency that is already reshaping lives, harming bodies and minds, and displacing entire communities?


This week, as a landmark Lancet Commission launches, Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac argue that sea-level rise must be understood not just as a climate threat, but as a health crisis currently unfolding. And, as co-chair of the Lancet Commission on Sea-Level Rise, Health and Justice, Christiana brings us inside the thinking behind this urgent new effort.


Christiana speaks to commissioners ‘Ofa Kaisamy, Professor Anne Poelina and Dr Sandro Demaio, who paint a vivid picture of what happens before and as the water arrives. This is a story of food insecurity, damaged clinics and hospitals, disease, displacement, trauma, and the loss of ancestral knowledge and cultural continuity. But it also points to an opportunity to finally see sea-level rise in fully human terms, with those on the frontlines shaping the response.


What changes when we stop treating rising seas as a distant environmental problem and start recognising them as a present health emergency? And what might become possible if the people most affected are no longer treated as victims, but as leaders?


Learn More:

🌊 Read The Lancet Commission launch paper on sea-level rise, health and justice.

🩺 Read Christiana’s opinion piece on health and sea-level rise in the Guardian

🏝️ Explore WHO Western Pacific’s work on climate change and health in the Pacific

📈 Go deeper with the IPCC on sea-level rise and low-lying coasts and islands.


🎤 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on SpeakPipe


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Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks 

Planning: Caitlin Hanrahan 

Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to outrage and optimism. I'm Tom Rivikarnik.

0:05.0

I'm Christiana Figueres and we don't have Paul.

0:08.0

No, Paul Dickinson, very sad, but we do have an amazing episode for you this week.

0:13.0

We're going to be talking about the launch of a landmark Lancet Commission report on sea level rise, health and justice.

0:20.0

And we speak to three of the team that have made it happen.

0:22.6

Thanks for being here.

0:26.1

So, Christiana, I am fascinated by this episode. I understand that you are a co-chair of this

0:32.0

Lancet Commission report. And it focuses on a range of things, but in particular, sea level rise

0:36.9

and how that is a health issue.

0:38.9

So initially, I mean, I'm coming to this fairly cold and I'm really keen to learn from you,

0:43.8

how is sea level rise a health issue?

0:46.1

Well, you shouldn't come to it cold.

0:47.5

You should come rather warm because it is very linked to global warming, Mr. Tom.

0:53.2

However, yes, I do co-chair together with Professor

0:57.4

Catherine Bowen and Professor G. Yu-Cha. We co-chair this Lancet Commission of

1:03.5

brilliant commissioners from around the world, scientists, investigators who are putting together this report and will continue to work

1:14.1

for a few more years to put more advanced copies on the table.

1:20.0

But Tom, I don't know if you remember, you're probably way too young to remember, when

1:25.9

we used to think about sea level rise as a slow onset impact of

1:34.1

climate change. Do you remember that term? You don't. You see, you're way too young.

1:38.0

Well, I hate to break it to you, but I have various people in my life who are connected to the oil

1:42.2

industry and that belief is still out there, I'm afraid to tell you.

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