The Hand in the Window: 'The Other Me'

20/20

ABC News

True Crime

3.8 • 7.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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There was the charming Shawn Grate, who looked good on the outside — but a different version of him lurked just beneath the surface. To catch new episodes early, follow "The Hand in the Window" for free on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Amazon Music⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is Deborah Roberts. I'm here with another weekly episode of our latest series from 2020 and ABC Audio, The Hand in the Window.
0:09.3	Remember, you can get new episodes early if you follow The Hand in the Window for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or your favorite podcast app.
0:25.9	Now, here's the episode. Based on the worldwide best-selling novel.
0:31.0	Why do you want this job? I really enjoy being a housemaid. This Christmas. Would you like the Grand Tour?
0:36.9	See what you're getting yourself into? Discover what lies. I don't know what's been going on with her lately.
0:38.5	Behind closed doors. I need this job. I do going on with her lately. Behind closed doors.
0:39.4	I need this job.
0:40.4	I do not want to go back.
0:41.6	Sydney Sweetie.
0:43.0	You'd lie it about everything.
0:44.2	Amanda Seifred.
0:46.5	What kind of monsters are we?
0:48.9	I want you to feel safe here.
0:49.9	The House Maid.
0:53.3	In Cinema's Everywhere, Boxing Day, see it first with previews from December 22.
1:00.0	A few days after Sean Great was arrested for kidnapping, rape, and murder,
1:04.8	Ashland County prosecutor Chris Tunnell gave a press conference,
1:10.2	covered by local ABC News affiliate, W.E.W.S. I want to say something very important.
1:13.6	Ashland County is a safe place to live.
1:16.6	We've not seen crimes of this magnitude in a very long time.
1:21.6	There's no reason for people in this county to live in fear.
1:25.6	Grade was behind bars in the Ashland County Jail.
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