Hey there, welcome to Going Scared. I'm Jessica Haniker, founder of the World Changing

Brand New Day Collection, and I'm glad to have you here for today's conversation.

Our Going Scared community gathers here every week for direct and honest conversations

that help you live a life of courage by leaving comfort and going scared.

Well, we have had an incredible series so far. I don't know about you all, but I have been so

inspired to do things like make my bed and drink my water and work out and clean up my piles

and make my doctor's appointments. And it has just been inspiring to walk with you all as a

community through habit. So thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for sharing this series.

It's become the most widely listened to series in our history. So you guys are digging this

as well. I'm really excited for today's guest Andy Crouch. Andy Crouch is actually a mentor

of mine in addition to being an incredible author of four previous books to the one that he just

released. Andy is the theology and culture partner at Praxis, which is an organization that works

as a creative engine for redemptive entrepreneurship. It's an organization I've been involved with

for many, many years now and has been a place of community for me when it comes to starting and

running and maintaining a thriving business that leads to human flourishing. Now Andy has been on

the podcast before and the last time he was on the show, it was a very practical podcast. I even

asked him, what's your cornerstone habit that you have in your life? I remember so many things about

that conversation, especially since my daughter, Omelie, was interviewing him and his daughter with me.

I would love for you to go back and listen to that episode. Just all you have to do is search,

going scared Andy Crouch in your podcast app and it will come up. So this conversation today is

a little bit more theoretical, but I think it's really important for us when we talk about technology

to understand what our intrinsic motivational forces can be when we are deciding to make moves

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