Hello, West Side Range.

There are only seven gun ranges in the city of New York.

The one I called up last week is in the basement of a building in the Flatiron District.

I said, you know, we're midtown in an office building,

and I'd say the majority of people in the office have no idea there's actually a gun range. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. Like, I mean, no one ever comes down. It's like, what is all that popping I'm hearing? On occasion, you know, I mean, once in a bloom, well, listen, we've been here over a half a century. So, you know, but most people haven't the size coup.

First of all, there's a gun range, much less in the same office building.

This gun range is not quite a secret, but it's clear that in a city like New York, someone like John, a licensed gun owner who works in a gun range, he feels a little under siege.

He didn't even want to give me his full name.

You happen to be very pleasant, but newspaper reporters, by definition, have been so goddamn cruel down here, you know, and I've never seen anything like this, you know. It's, it's, talk about, anyway, that's my pet peeve.

Okay, here's my question for you.

Like, how hard is it to get a gun permit or a gun license in New York?

Okay.

So most people's perception is that of America, where licenses are not required, most often than not.

New York City is pretty different from what John calls America.

Getting a license, you have to have patience. It does take time.

You have to get fingerprinted. You have to get interviewed by the police.

And once you buy a gun, most of the time you can only use it in your home or at a city firing range, like the one

John works at.

Each state has, you know, they have so many different crazy laws.

I mean, they're 50 states, right?

So each state has, within the state, you have different laws, you know?

So it's, you know, to be aware of all the laws, you'd have to, you have to

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