Welcome to part two of our conversation with James Anito about demons in society.

You had mentioned before we got on the air that there was a case that you were involved in and even an exorcist got involved in.

It turned out to be fraudulent. It kind of walked me through that because it'd be interesting to kind of pull the curtain back and

you know see how that works I know you guys are super vigilant on like who you you know

allow into that world because a lot of times things can be debunked and you want to make sure

there's not a mental health thing going on how how did this go so yeah definitely so I always try

to check the boxes off.

And sometimes we are fooled.

We're all human.

I really had a feel for this person.

The biggest reason is that the paranormal investigator that got me involved, this is in Tennessee,

by the way.

The paranormal investigator that got me involved is a police officer by day.

Both of them actually were.

So, you know, I definitely, and I don't think it's their fault.

I think they were fooled as well.

You know, even the greatest of us can be fooled.

So, you know, I think in that form is I kind of let my guard down, but there were things that were occurring, maybe forcedly by the person.

Maybe they, like telekinesis or telepathy or psychokinesis, things were happening in those senses.

So maybe they were projecting it.

But the police officer actually felt uneasy at the house.

He said that some data points were occurring.

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