Welcome to episode 11 of the Grey NATO, a loose discussion of travel, adventure,

diving, gear, and most certainly watches. I'm James Stacy and I'm Jason Heaton.

During today's episode we're talking about quote-unquote new vintage watches, those watches that brands are coming out

with that sort of hearken back to perhaps a vintage model of their own or just trying to capture sort of the glory of the great days of the

50s and 60s when you know there were just a lot of great watches around so the

watches we're kind of talking about here are those from, you know,

Longine and Ores, Tudor, Eterna, Seco, just a bunch of others.

And it's kind of been a trend, I don't know, James, maybe seems like it kind of, it's kind of in peak form now, but I would say we kind of saw this starting about, I don't know, three years ago, four years ago, would would you say I would say closer to ten oh really

because 2007 was the long jeans heritage diver yeah yeah and I think in we'll say 2004 to 2005 so if you if you look to even smaller brands like if you think of Ocean 7 and and some of those like early internet micro brands.

Yeah. A lot of them were producing

watches that faded the line between

a referential model, an homage.

And I mean, when it's in a brand,

then it's no longer an homage, right?

Like if, if Ors makes the 65, that's a legit watch,

but if somebody else made a watch that looked just like a 65.

Then it's an homage.

So I mean, with some of these smaller brands, I don't think you can necessarily call them new vintage.

But that's largely, it's what they were cornering, what they were looking for in the market was you know these watches

that weren't around anymore in many cases like you know a couple brands were

making omeges to the Plow Prof before Omega released it.

Right.

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