Hello and welcome to another episode of the Grey NATO. It's a loose discussion of travel, adventure, diving, driving,

gear, and most certainly watches. This episode 364, and it's proudly brought to you by the always-growing

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details. My name is James Stacey and I'm joined as ever by my friend and co-host, Jason Heaton. Hey, Jason, how we doing? I'm doing pretty well. I'm actually pretty excited about today's episode. I always kind of get a little bit kind of amped up for for guest episodes. It's always It's fun to have a third person on or sometimes a fourth person in some cases.

But yeah, this one's a good one.

It is.

Yeah, we just finished recording. episodes. It's always fun to have a third person on or sometimes a fourth person in some cases. But

yeah, this one's a good one. It is. Yeah, we just finished recording with Guy. Obviously,

you can't really lead on an episode that has a gentleman's name in the title. We don't commonly

have like people come on to talk about the brand. But man, you get talking to Guy and like,

I thought it was, you know, 30 plus

years, but it's closer to 40 plus years in the watch industry at some level. A lot of it as like

someone who made real decisions and like tried to keep brands from, you know, crashing and burning

to a certain extent. And you and I have just been, you know, kind of really impressed by the,

the Elliott Brown product. So when, when it looked like we had the option of having Guy on, I mean,

we started talking about this during the Toronto show, so September of last year, when I learned

a little bit about his pass with Zenith and all these other brands and retail and distribution

and all that. And, and then when it looked like it would work out and we needed a, a guest for this week for, you know, for something to chat with, uh, it was very nice of Guy to be available to hop on a mic. So it was a good chat and one I'm looking forward to getting to in just a few minutes here. I mean, I mentioned it when we were clicking off with with Guy, but the time flew more than almost any other

episode we've done. I suddenly looked up at the timer on the recording here, and it was like,

we're pushing 46, 47 minutes. And I thought, wow, it just, it felt like we were just on for 25

minutes. And it's just, it was a fun chat. And we've met Guy and Gem, who does the marketing

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