The Grey NATO – 363 – A Navel-Gazing Oral History Of TGN
The Grey Nato
James Stacey and Jason Heaton
4.9 • 973 Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2026
⏱️ 70 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of the Grey Nato. It's a loose discussion of travel, adventure, diving, driving, driving gear, and most certainly watches. This is episode 363, and it's proudly brought to you by the always-growing TGN supporter crew. We thank you all so much for your continued support, and if you're listening and would like to support the show, please visit thegraynato.com for more details. My name is James Stacey and I'm joined as ever by my friend and co-host, Jason Heaton. Jason, how are we doing? Well, I'm doing okay and I'll do my best to keep you awake for the next hour. Yeah, I don't know if I will keep the like eight errors I made in three sentences there. I don't know if I'll keep those in the |
| 0:37.9 | recording. I'm fairly jet lagged. You know, I'm usually pretty good coming home, but coming back |
| 0:43.5 | from Japan seems to be able to do it. I did sleep last night. I don't know that I slept all that |
| 0:48.7 | well. I was definitely up and down, as was my baby son. |
| 0:57.5 | And, yes, I'm feeling pretty fuzzy at the moment. |
| 1:00.6 | You guys can time it out over the next hour or so. |
| 1:04.2 | I will ingest another four espressoes as we sit here. |
| 1:07.0 | And then we'll figure out how it goes from there. |
| 1:07.7 | So how have you been? |
| 1:09.4 | Yeah, I'm doing fine. |
| 1:28.6 | I mean, it makes me wonder about, you know, there's so many theories about jet lag and, you know, how many days you're gone versus how many hours it takes to get back to normal and whatever. And it was a quick trip for you. It was what, Friday through Tuesday. I guess that's enough to settle in. Yeah, yeah. And I, I, I, we don't talk quote there a ton. And maybe it's not even that interesting. Often I find most people talking about AI to be, it's like I'm falling asleep, unless you're kind of predicting how, how things could go. This trip was originally going to somebody else at Houdinke. Then they couldn't make it. So I took it. And it was for the launch of this new LV collab. They do these major launches, not quite every year, but close to, |
| 1:46.3 | where they're doing five of them total. This is the third one. And they partner with like a |
| 1:50.7 | notable independent watchmaker and they make something really next level. Right. So the first one |
| 1:57.6 | was a Retchap Rachev Rchepe with a dial on each side of the watch. The second one was a Kari watch from again, Kari Voutelanan. And this first one was a wretch reprippi with a dial in each side of the watch the second one was |
| 2:00.9 | a kari watch from again kari voutelanin and this third one was for dbatun and uh the watch is |
| 2:07.6 | fairly conventional especially within the debatune sense a very unconventional brand um the lvdb o3 gmt but |
| 2:15.8 | they also made two sympathy clocks which which is something simply nobody does. |
| 2:21.2 | And actually the last time it was done, it was largely done by the same person who made this one, Denny Flaugelay. |
| 2:25.5 | It's an interesting story. If you want to go deeper into it, it's on Haudenki. |
| 2:29.5 | My coverage is on Houdinke. |
| 2:31.4 | That said, it's perhaps about as far away from being a TGN watch as a titanium |
| 2:35.7 | sport watch with a GMT function could be. You know, it's about a half a million dollars once you |
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