Hello and

welcome to another episode of the Grey NATO.

It's a loose discussion of travel, diving, driving gear, and most certainly watches.

This is episode 168, and we thank you for listening.

Jason, how you doing?

Oh, I'm doing great.

Yeah, I'm excited for this episode.

It's a fun one.

We have a really awesome chat with one of the two kind of founders and, you know,

mines behind this incredible British clothing company, Volbuk.

I learned so much. We just finished the call, we'd like to do. We recorded as a segment and then we do the before and after.

Yeah, I hope people like it. It's Steve was a lot of fun. I was telling you, it sounds like even while he's talking, he's got a smile on his face. It just sounds lot of fun. I was telling you it sounds like even while he's talking he's got a smile on his face just sounds like he's got a real vigor for life and and a legit adventure which is always fun.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's got. I had some great story so look forward to that in in just a few minutes time but before then you know last week was a Q and a so we didn't get any chit chat and that sort of stuff in

How's how's the weather your way, Jason? Weather's cool.

Yeah, that's blue sky, crisp.

Yeah, it's November, but it still feels a bit October-ish.

It's really nice. We got out for a hike on Sunday and it was decidedly cooler than

than we've been having. I mean we've been on the bike and that's still

tolerable even with the breeze you're creating but even hiking was

was a bit chilly it was kind of a wake-up call but you know hey we're we're in November so that's fine

yeah the big news on my end is I got a I got a Macbook air. I finally upgraded my

machine so I had my old air. I looked at the about this Mac and it was an eight year old Macbook air 13 inch my

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